No matter where you come from in the world, we want to work with you if you are good enough. We will help you get all your papers, flat and so on if you feel like joining our team ;).
Here is the offer :
Upfluence is developing groundbreaking tools dedicated to the content marketing industry. Our products include ultra efficient web crawlers dedicated to aggregating and analyzing data about millions of social influencers and bloggers as well as a marketplace and a SAAS product. With offices in San Francisco, Geneva and Lyon and a two-digit monthly growth we need an experienced developer profile to lead our tech team. You will also be actively participating in analyzing business needs and operational metrics with the goal to improve existing business process and systems performance.
What We Offer:
• Competitive salary in France + equity
• Flexible time-off policy
• 10% of working hours dedicated to a free project
• Apple Laptop + LED Cinema Display
What We Care About:
• Building scalable and flexible systems to cater to continuous business improvement and growth
• Writing clean and maintainable code with complete unit & integration tests
• Setting realistic estimations and meeting deadlines
• Following up after deployments & analyzing system metrics to ensure that the systems work as intended
• Collaboration and effective communication
• Commitment to quality
What You Will Do:
• Lead a team of 5 developers and report to the board of shareholders
• Manage and optimize development process
• Write technical specifications of key new features and products
• Develop applications and systems using Ruby on Rails and Python
• Work with R&D to improve the efficiency of our proprietary crawlers
• Work closely with business teams to build the necessary business services
What You Bring To The Table:
• Experience in Technical team management using Scrum / Kaban
• 2+ years of programming experience (Rails, Ruby and/or Sinatra preferred)
• Working knowledge of front-end technologies (JavaScript (CoffeeScript), CSS (SAAS), HTML)
• Experience with non-relational DB such as MongoDB
• Strong understanding of OOP, TDD concepts and the latest design and architectural patterns
• Experience building applications using AWS services including EC2, S3, ElasticCache, CloudFront
• High comfort level with Git & Github
I was wondering about this, much to high for monthly salary(correct me if I’m wrong), to little for yearly. Even if it’s net.
That’s less then person on that position can get in Poland, with drastically lower costs of living.
This is actually very interesting. What kind of salary can a RoR dev can expect in Poland ? Sadly I think french people are really underpaid when in comes to web development.
You still haven’t specified if it’s net or not. Assuming it’s yearly net it translates to polish 120k PLN yearly = 10k Monthly. There are currently several offers on this forum alone that offer more then 10k / month for senior developers.
And for lead developers “competive” salary would be around 50% more.
It is good to know you get paid quite well We also give the equivalent of 20K€ in stocks at current valuation. In France this salary includes universal health coverage which means free healthcare and a pension. I don’t know what you have in Poland on that side just though to mention it.
It might ben interesting for you to know that we have so much taxes in France, that we actually pay 25K€ a year in taxes when we pay an employee 10KPLN a month. That’s why we can’t pay that much.
Well if you know someone interested, even with a more Junior profile we are ready to look into it
@kcreusy So if I take your word for it (though I am really skeptical!)… RoR devs in France earn ridiculously low wages compared to their colleagues in Germany or the UK- for example. This is really sad, considering that overall median salaries in the aforementioned countries are fairly similar to those in France.
What really bugs me is that I am struggling to see any reason why a senior dev wanting to work abroad in Europe would choose 35k + stock perks in Lyon, than 50-60-70k + stock perks elsewhere? What competitive advantage can you offer to those people?
On the other hand, maybe the wages for RoR devs in France are not much worse than in the neighboring countries, but you are trying to cut your costs and looking for cheap labour abroad? If so, would you really want to employ the idiot who cannot do simple maths on the deal he is offered? I would be scared for my business to depend on such employees.
Hey, Well this is a sad story but engineers in France, unlike anywhere else in the world are underpaid. You can check french offers for senior developpers in large companies. Few of them will be above 42K a year without at least 5 years of experience.
You have the right to doubt me, but please stay polite, and check your facts before accusing me of anything ;). Your labor isn’t cheap, you are rather expensive actually. But when it comes to RoR though, Polish people are the best I have ever seen. If someone has a crazy fetish about France and start-up we would be glad to welcome him, that’s all. We actually have a lot of candidacies already.
@kcreusy First of all thank you very much for stucking with us and answering all our questions. It’s really appreciated as a lot of people drop by, drop an ad (often not really fitting our forum) and then go silent. They treat Polish developers like some 3rd world country (to this day I often get offer to get me a working visa in UK, or get asked for visa status when recruiter sends me an offer). That’s the source of some hostility towards international recruites on this forum (especially when offer seems low-ball-ish). I appologise if you felt we question your honesty or integrity, it was not our intention.
Regarding stock options -
I’ve seen the +stock but stock options are a tricky beasts. Tricky enough that some people not only didn’t make any money on them, but in fact lost money. Getting stock for free or buying it with huge discount is threated by most countries as tax benefit. So when stock is valued very high, you buy it for nominal price (eg 1eurocent for stock worth 10k Euro at the point of option realization) you are on the hook for paying ~20% taxes of 10k out of your own pocket.
It’s ok if you then sell this stocks and make money. But some stock option contracts contain additional clausules that prevent you from selling for another year or more. Then company goes bankrupt/taken over. Stock becomes worthless but you’ve still paid 2k taxes on it, taxes that you cannot now get back.
That’s why I always reccomend to ignore stock options when evaluating job proposal.
Regarding your offer in general - it’s very nicely formulated, i think you went a little unprepared without checking salaries in Poland and that’s the only reason some of your statements looked bad, you could adjust them a little (eg. “competive salary in France”) and it’d certainly be one of most interesting offers.
Good luck on your search!
Thank you all for your patience answers and questions
If you know anyone who is good, would like to work with us, we are ready to consider any kind of salary. Talent has no price after all and we just finished raising some money :p.
As I said, polish developers when it comes to rails… wow ! So We’d be twice as interested with a candidacy from here!
Yeah defo! I just think, you might have hard time convincing someone to take the offer. Best of luck to you nonetheless. And a huge thank you for contributing all the valuable insights @kcreusy
@kcreusy Yes. No offense meant here and I think that @swistak84 has nicely explained the source of some of my doubts. I hope, I am being reasonable. I based my judgement on some reasonable assumptions and hard data and things did not add up for some reason…
We also give the equivalent of 20K€ in stocks at current valuation. In France this salary includes universal health coverage which means free healthcare and a pension. I don’t know what you have in Poland on that side just though to mention it.